Dear Lord,
(or anyone who might have a chance to read this message before it vanishes...)
I previously posted a notice to several tribes that I belong to, describing an article that I recently wrote for the current issue of The Entheogen Review. I was surprised to discover that my notice (as well as other folks posts responding to my notice) was scrubbed clean from most spots where I posted it, including the Mind States tribe that I moderate. Tribe has also twice removed a photograph of an individual mentioned in the article (an image that I snapped myself), which appeared on my blog page. (I've just reposted it for a third time, but I suppose that if it disappears again, I will post a picture of something reasonably equivalent instead.)
Tribe's "terms of use" and "code of conduct" make it clear that they "have the right to delete any content for any reason or no reason," and they don't need to provide notice that they removed the content. It is also worth pointing out that Tribe employees or administrators "may monitor your communications and may disclose content and information about you, including contents of communications..."
Be careful what you say, since Tribe feels free to eavesdrop at any time. And of course, if they don't like what you say, they'll just make it disappear as though it never existed in the first place. How Big Brother of them.
I wonder why Tribe would have felt the need to censor my posts? It seems unlikely that anyone at Tribe really cares THAT much about suppressing the story I wanted to share with the psychonautical community. Rather, it seems more logical to suspect that Tribe was PRESSURED into removing my posts by someone who preferred that my article is not widely read.
And so, I'll try again--without naming any specific names, without using any potentially offensive slang terms (although, if the shoe fits...), without any commercial plugs--and hopefully THIS post will stay within the boundaries of "acceptable" posting. But since Tribe can remove my posts "for any reason or no reason," it is hard to know whether or not I am just writing postcards to God...
In any case, I encourage folks to read my article, which is posted here:
www.entheogenreview.com/halperngate.html
It MUST be good, if someone has had it censored, right? :-)
Frankly, censorship rankles me. My response to those who incite and execute such tactics is a renewed and invigorated vigilance in spreading the information. Toward that end, I encourage anyone who agrees that this is an important article to post a description of the story and link to it at their web page. Or repost THIS message to tribes you feel might benefit from reading the story. (Although changing the subject line might hide it from the Tribe censors for a bit longer, I dunno.) Or e-mail it to friends…
I send a big "thank you" to the many people who have e-mailed me, expressing their appreciation that I wrote the article.
-- Jon Hanna
(or anyone who might have a chance to read this message before it vanishes...)
I previously posted a notice to several tribes that I belong to, describing an article that I recently wrote for the current issue of The Entheogen Review. I was surprised to discover that my notice (as well as other folks posts responding to my notice) was scrubbed clean from most spots where I posted it, including the Mind States tribe that I moderate. Tribe has also twice removed a photograph of an individual mentioned in the article (an image that I snapped myself), which appeared on my blog page. (I've just reposted it for a third time, but I suppose that if it disappears again, I will post a picture of something reasonably equivalent instead.)
Tribe's "terms of use" and "code of conduct" make it clear that they "have the right to delete any content for any reason or no reason," and they don't need to provide notice that they removed the content. It is also worth pointing out that Tribe employees or administrators "may monitor your communications and may disclose content and information about you, including contents of communications..."
Be careful what you say, since Tribe feels free to eavesdrop at any time. And of course, if they don't like what you say, they'll just make it disappear as though it never existed in the first place. How Big Brother of them.
I wonder why Tribe would have felt the need to censor my posts? It seems unlikely that anyone at Tribe really cares THAT much about suppressing the story I wanted to share with the psychonautical community. Rather, it seems more logical to suspect that Tribe was PRESSURED into removing my posts by someone who preferred that my article is not widely read.
And so, I'll try again--without naming any specific names, without using any potentially offensive slang terms (although, if the shoe fits...), without any commercial plugs--and hopefully THIS post will stay within the boundaries of "acceptable" posting. But since Tribe can remove my posts "for any reason or no reason," it is hard to know whether or not I am just writing postcards to God...
In any case, I encourage folks to read my article, which is posted here:
www.entheogenreview.com/halperngate.html
It MUST be good, if someone has had it censored, right? :-)
Frankly, censorship rankles me. My response to those who incite and execute such tactics is a renewed and invigorated vigilance in spreading the information. Toward that end, I encourage anyone who agrees that this is an important article to post a description of the story and link to it at their web page. Or repost THIS message to tribes you feel might benefit from reading the story. (Although changing the subject line might hide it from the Tribe censors for a bit longer, I dunno.) Or e-mail it to friends…
I send a big "thank you" to the many people who have e-mailed me, expressing their appreciation that I wrote the article.
-- Jon Hanna
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Re: You'll want to read THIS one, folks. :-)
Sun, April 16, 2006 - 7:37 AMAstute, artful, even-handed coverage of a sensitive topic. Good reporting, Jon. -
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Re: You'll want to read THIS one, folks. :-)
Tue, April 18, 2006 - 12:59 AMTribe's "terms of use" and "code of conduct" make it clear that they "have the right to delete any content for any reason or no reason," and they don't need to provide notice that they removed the content. It is also worth pointing out that Tribe employees or administrators "may monitor your communications and may disclose content and information about you, including contents of communications..."
why not make friends with them then.You think that they are different from you and me?
the idea of tribe is good and if it were mine I probably would do the same if you know what I mean.
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Re: You'll want to read THIS one, folks. :-)
Thu, May 11, 2006 - 6:46 AMI'm wholly against any attempts to abridge anyone's right to freedom of speech. Even if I don't agree with what you are saying, I still feel you have the right to say it or type it. That's just my philosophy. I think this is backed up by the First Amendment to the Constitution. Amen! *smiles* -
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Re: You'll want to read THIS one, folks. :-)
Thu, May 11, 2006 - 1:18 PMits amazing how the constitution doesnt mean shit on globaly based internet communication forums... some people dont really even get democracy!
in some ways the internet is still this lawless atonomous zone where local sherifs or law bringers and lynch mobs rule...it like the anarchy of the wild west... its a matter of time before it gets taken over by goverment and corporate power...again like the wild west...and instead of the union its the cable and telecommunication companies working in conjunction with the feds... interestng how history repeats itself.... any time there is a free zone look out here comes economic powers and political powers reaching out a claim...
enjoy the anarchy while it lasts. on the one hand its sucks when some one plays the petty tyrant and deletes your stuff, but its betterr then what will happen when the corparate powers and feds take over the net.... like some sort of wierd AOL world eeewwwww.... i need to take a shower now.... -
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Re: You'll want to read THIS one, folks. :-)
Sat, May 13, 2006 - 8:06 AMQuite frankly, I'm against LSD, but I think everyone should be able to say and print what they want. I actually support the legalization and responsible use of all drugs, even though, I don't use any drugs, myself...Go figure. But, anyways, enough with the diatribe. I like to believe that if you respect another's right to freedom of speech, et cetera, then others will respct your right. Naive, perhaps, but it's what I live by.
With that said, Rick Doblin, MAPS, and ST can go fly a kite, or in the immortal words of my co-pilot, go %^#* themselves!)...But, anyways...
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Re: You'll want to read THIS one, folks. :-)
Sun, May 14, 2006 - 6:03 PM
"With that said, Rick Doblin, MAPS, and ST can go fly a kite, or in the immortal words of my co-pilot, go %^#* themselves!)...But, anyways.."
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Re: You'll want to read THIS one, folks. :-)
Tue, May 30, 2006 - 10:53 AMST is okay, again. MAPS, I still wonder about, sometimes. And, Rick Doblin? Sheesh, what a snot! Just kidding, I think;)
Essentially, I just wanted to illustrate that you can say or type anything you want to...that should be backed up by the First Ammendment, don't you think?(different?);) -
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Re: You'll want to read THIS one, folks. :-)
Wed, May 31, 2006 - 2:18 AMright sure of coarse... but you still have to face the actual consequences of your freedom. i have the the freedom to kill some one and face the consequences of expressing that freedom.... just as an extreme example. crow and eagle are great ones to watch and learn about this dynamic if you ever get the chance....
i have the right to spit in some ones face then then get punched in my face for doing so... -
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Re: You'll want to read THIS one, folks. :-)
Wed, May 31, 2006 - 10:11 AMConsequences? Apples and oranges. The point being, moreso, how can you expect someone to respect your freedom of speech if you don't respect theirs? Press and religion, would be the same... How can you expect someone to respect your freedom of religion, if you don't respect theirs?
As for spitting in someone's face, sounds like you've had too much to drink. I don't drink, personally, and I don't go to bars, so maybe that's how I avoid getting punched in the face;)
As for crow and eagle, do you do yoga?;) Don't forget the breathing exercises;) -
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Re: You'll want to read THIS one, folks. :-)
Thu, June 1, 2006 - 8:01 PMwell i find it really interesting that you can avoid getting punched in the face.... you must just be this way online so that no one can actualy punch you. alot of people do that online...
when some ones freedom interferes with anothers person freedom what then?
and for your information my job is to get spit in the face or avodi it ; )... i work in a psych ward. we have these little masks that we put on peoples faces when we know they have an infectious disease so that we dont get diseases ridden saliva in our mouth or eyes...wish we had something like that around here ; ) if you know your sick and your trying to harm some one and your spiting in some oens face to harm them, then the consequence is that you have to where the mask until you stop try to spit on us. -
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Re: You'll want to read THIS one, folks. :-)
Thu, June 1, 2006 - 9:26 PMsooo just incase people have not read this for a while...
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Re: You'll want to read THIS one, folks. :-)
Wed, June 7, 2006 - 12:38 PM^Are you promoting censorship? What does Jon think about this? Just curious, as it may be applicable in the context of this thread. Kind of ironic, if you ask meh... -
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Re: You'll want to read THIS one, folks. :-)
Thu, June 8, 2006 - 12:09 PMIt is entirely true that I was not aware of the Tribe rules when I made my initial post. It is possible, had I been aware, that I might have toned down how I presented the post a bit. Some people, for example, may feel that the word "snitch" is insulting. (I think mainly it is those people who HAVE snitched that feel this way.)
However, if the Tribe censor were to actually READ the article that I wrote (which I suspect never happened), it seems hard to believe that that person would not have seen that the piece was a reporting of the known facts regarding the situation at hand.
Undoubtedly, what went down was that the subject of my article pressured Tribe to censor my posts. Otherwise, it seems VERY unlikely that Tribe would have given a flying fuck.
As far as removing the photo of John Halpern that I posted to my blog, Tribe told me that they will remove any photo where the poster does not have permission to post it from the other Tribe member. I pointed out that MANY photos posted to Tribe (particularly of friends) are unlikely to have explicit permission to be posted. And I asked, several times, exactly how it was that Tribe could possibly KNOW which photos have permission and which don't. I got no answer to that question. Since there would be no way for Tribe to know that I had not received permission to post the image unless they had been contacted by Halpern, it seems reasonable to presume that he contacted them. (A mutual acquaintance told me that Halpern was "fuming mad" about my Tribe posts.)
Here we seem to have a situation where Tribe is more tightly restricted most other professional media would be. It is my understanding that a photographer owns the rights to any photo that he takes. Further, it is my understanding that it is not required to obtain any sort of a release form when publishing photos of famous individuals. Certainly someone who promotes himself as an expert in a field and who lectures in public at various venues could be argued to qualify as being "famous," even if it is within the restricted context of a special interest. I'm sure that there are many pro-bowlers, clothing designers, and newspaper columnists, etc., who are quite famous within the context of those who follow their work, who I would not recognize a photo of. So, without being familiar with Tribe's strange and hugely non-enforceable rule about posting photos of other Tribe members, it was entirely reasonable for me to think that I could post a photo that I took myself of someone famous who was speaking at a conference related to an article that I had written. (It is perhaps worth pointing out that Halpern certainly isn't MUCH of a Tribe member--unless he is simply a voyeur--and Tribe might well have some means of clearing out dead wood after a particular period of time; consider that Halpern joined Tribe on 10/09/04 which is also the date his account was last updated, he has zero photos posted and only one friend. This strongly indicates that he doesn't actually USE the Tribe service, other than to encourage them to censor any posts about himself that he feels are not flattering.)
I found it ironic that Tribe several times removed my photo of Halpern, but when I ultimately posted a picture of a rat instead, they left that up with no problem.
I'll call a spade a spade. The fact of the matter is that Halpern is a snitch, who is not only actively remaining silent about his past, but who is attempting to silence others from spreading the news (as evidenced with his bullying of Tribe to remove my posts). I suppose that Tribe will now either remove THIS post or kick me to the curb. Whatever.
-- Jon
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Re: You'll want to read THIS one, folks. :-)
Thu, June 8, 2006 - 1:04 PMWell I hope that they don't remove it, or you (or that Halpern doesn't stick his nose in it again). As you have stated, you are only providing the facts. Facts that I feel need to get out there and be heard. Cheers to Jon and Mark for bringing this info to the public at large. -
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Re: You'll want to read THIS one, folks. :-)
Thu, June 8, 2006 - 1:30 PMjust wanted to post that so as to explain why it probably happened. im on jons side actualty. but those are the rules here. i am not promoting censorship, but when we join this system of tribes we make an agreement to fallow these rules... which i actualy had to look up becuase i had no idea they existed or i just flew past them not careing, didnt even pay attention, until some one was trying to out some people who are chemists on the DMT tribe posting their pictures which is really lame! the shoes just on the other foot in that case.
personaly i think that its great that you outed a narc, but here on tribes they dont really allow it. its i think called defameing someone. whether it rightous or not if we do it they can do it as well and i know for one that i dont want any one posting pics of me saying hey look at what this guy is up to, yah know? -
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Re: You'll want to read THIS one, folks. :-)
Sun, October 29, 2006 - 9:03 AMWell done buddy! " never let dogs hide amongst us expose them and have the crowds deal with em "
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